[1]The C64 Community Loading... This site is best viewed in a modern browser with JavaScript enabled. Worth it for the replica case alone! pete1061 This does sound very interesting. But the mini one seem more like just a "look alike". I look forward to the fully functional one? That is if it's 100% C-64, C-64 OS and everything. This obviously is a box with built in games, a console without cartridges. The only thing "C-64" is the shape of the device, and games from that platform. Not really the Commodore platform though. So many of us are hoping for the resurgence of Commodore, and the systems they had. You are teasing us fans here, we will he hoping for the real thing, which you promise later in a full size one? Don't forget the Amiga, who owns that platform right now? get together with them and do something. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ReflectedLightEntertainment Amiga is more complicated. The Amiga OS is owned by Hyperion. The Amiga trademarks is either with Cloanto or still with Amiga Inc. / Bill McEwen et al. That should clarify ownership issues somewhat. Commodore USA only licensed and it was licensed to them by Amiga Inc. at that time. I think Amiga Inc. may have sold those rights to Cloanto as I believe Amiga Inc. is basically defunct now. Hyperion was awarded the rights to the Amiga OS after a lengthy lawsuit with Amiga Inc. Ugly lawsuit. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lordling [2]ReflectedLightEntertainment Is that not just the AmigaOS 4, so the PowerPC build? Would a retro machine need to run this? If not then it's back to Cloanto who own everything else it seems. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ReflectedLightEntertainment [3]Lordling Not exactly. Cloanto doesn't own the Commodore trademarks, either. The patents are expired so no point in claim or other legal b.s. because the legal protections for original patents is expired and no longer available as a legal protection in the U.S. and many other countries. AmigaOS code could be ported officially to other CPU architecture by Hyperion. Over the years, the rights have been split up all over the place. I don't think AmigaOS would be needed to run a C64 emulated system because after all, the Amiga operating systems from PPC era and it's predecessors on the original 68K classic Amiga computers were a separate line of computers by Commodore than the C64 which used largely different hardware technology like Mac was to the Apple II, the Amiga is kind of to the Commodore 64/128 series. Somehow, Commodore didn't translate the transition to Amiga quite as effective as Apple did. That's my opinion on the history. Who owns the rights is a bit messy especially after ESCOM. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- References Visible links 1. https://community.thec64.com/ 2. https://community.thec64.com/d/11/3 3. https://community.thec64.com/d/11/4