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Full size with SID?

  Tryle

   Thats really great! And you must know that there is also a big chiptune
   music scene. So do you emulate or rebuild the famous SID soundchip ?? I
   read that you also publish a fullsize version. that would be great to make
   music with it. There are some tools for music production and with USB port
   I could connect my synthesizer keyboard to it. Would it work?

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  acidf

   Hi ,
   I would also like to know if the SID chip (or emulation since SID chips
   can not be found) is included ?

   This would be great news for the Chiptune community [2]:)

   Best regards,
   Fabian

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  Trinket

   I wouldn't expect there to be a hardware SID. The only chip they've
   mentioned so far is an ARM, and the only custom software they talk about
   is the front-end. It's reasonable to expect a stock existing software
   emulator like VICE will be used, and it's not known which SID emulation
   options will be used or available. I suspect it'll depend on how powerful
   their chosen chip is, since some other popular ARMs can't reach 100% speed
   in VICE with the better SID options enabled.

   The full sized version is rumored to run the same chip, if not the same
   board. USB support is only mentioned for keyboard (computer keyboard, not
   music keyboard [3]:) ) and flash drives.

   I'm not sure how this would be better than VICE on a PC for the chiptune
   community, as using cross-platform music editors as currently done will
   have a much faster turnaround. The SID emulation quality might be higher
   on PC; the best audio fidelity you could expect for the mini is being on
   par with VICE on PC.

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  acidf

   thank you for your reply [4];)

   I tested many vst and SID emulation, but I never find the true sound,
   In hardware you have super machine but the price is very high
   (ex : [5]https://twisted-electrons.com/product/therapsid/ )

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  Trinket

   Given that the SID is a partially analog device, even on original hardware
   there was no single "true" sound. Each computer had slightly different
   characteristics, depending on variability of the chips themselves as well
   as external capacitors not being consistent.

   Of course, all these analog effects means it's also harder to emulate or
   get the same characteristics in a FPGA, compared to replicating purely
   digital chips.

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  ReflectedLightEntertainment

   It's all emulated. None of the original chips are used. The original chips
   have not been produced since about 1994/1995 as the last ever produced
   Commodore 64 was ran through the assembly line.

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